Subject	it costs more to buy a good product to copy
Posted by	ZLover4Life on November 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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In Reply To	Guess it's getting hard to find a good copy, to copy. (n/m) posted by bstyleZ on November 30, 2009 at 05:44 PM
Message	that'd cut into revenue. "When you say this, will you be surprised if your arguments seem to move about instead of staying put? And will you accuse me of being Daedalus who makes them move, though you are yourself much more skillful than Daedalus and make them go around in a circle? Or do you not realize that our argument has moved around and come again to the same place? [...] Or do you not remember?" - Socrates
Follow Ups	AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - Bernie (NoVA) 00:56:30 11/30/09 Interesting... I have a strong will to remove my AMS pulley - TeenHeat 01:04:07 11/30/09 Thanks for the Apples/Apples testing. (n/m) - induetime 01:28:19 11/30/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - WazTTed 01:31:55 11/30/09 eeeeeeeenteristing... - vorpalZ 01:32:06 11/30/09 It's not about the seller. It's all about consumers choice. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 11:12:59 11/30/09 The unfortunate result of this thought process is... - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:30:49 11/30/09 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 17:44:31 11/30/09 Thanks for the follow-through. (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:15:19 11/30/09 Was never any doubt in my mind.... - Multi_Read (MO) 02:33:48 11/30/09 Thank you for your dedication to accurate information. - ZLover4Life 03:39:25 11/30/09 Good write up. - Boosted1 05:54:18 11/30/09 Great info (n/m) - Polish 06:19:27 11/30/09 so much for the speed holes (n/m) - aliaZ 06:29:42 11/30/09 nice info...are you going to post this on 3ZC? (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:21:52 11/30/09 What, and risk getting banned? Why bother? - BigTDogg (MA) 09:59:56 11/30/09 why does the pulley sit further away from the base - The Devils Z 07:22:57 11/30/09 and how much does the OEM water pump pulley weigh ? (n/m) - The Devils Z 07:26:09 11/30/09 I think the why is covered, the stock weight is ~11oz. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 08:19:05 11/30/09 The AMS pulley is a *direct* copy of the PEX pulley, - ni[X]it 09:11:49 11/30/09 thanx ..I don't really follow the AMS threads too much - The Devils Z 12:15:38 11/30/09 Correct - AMS & PEX have the exact same offset problem - Bernie (NoVA) 11:09:56 01/10/10 I do not trust the data from someone w/o world business - zgene4 08:59:33 11/30/09 nice work to tell us what most of us already know. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:33:47 11/30/09 Thanks... (n/m) - RSR 09:37:41 11/30/09 i'll have to check and see which one I have (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 09:54:41 11/30/09 Look for the heavy speed holes. (n/m) - Guapo 10:23:42 11/30/09 Can't wait to see if they reply to this or... - rojoloco (San Diego) 10:14:24 11/30/09 They will "redesign" - marklar182 10:29:51 11/30/09 Sadly, this doesn't sound too far off. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:23:03 11/30/09 thanks for the info. nice. (n/m) - RedSER13 10:33:39 11/30/09 Thanks Bernie. - SimaYi 10:36:39 11/30/09 I think honzrr has been banned (n/m) - aliaZ 10:41:07 11/30/09 (Total Hits: a lot). Thanks Bernie, very informative. - Spongerider :) 11:22:15 11/30/09 They are a large, accredited company after all. - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:32:50 11/30/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - Vuk@Absolute Motorsports Inc. 12:33:30 11/30/09 well, you sure convinced me, that Bernie guy is all talk! - ZEngineer 12:50:44 11/30/09 Hi Vuk, thanks for stopping by w. your typical replies. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:00:59 11/30/09 does your warranty cover the "speculative" failure? (n/m) - chicagozer 13:01:22 11/30/09 Probably not - see my point 4 below ... - ConVerTT 13:11:32 11/30/09 Why not use customer satisfaction? - Spongerider :) 14:06:17 11/30/09 Your response is very interesting. You admit to a design - Spongerider :) 13:05:48 11/30/09 So let me see if I have this straight .... - ConVerTT 13:08:47 11/30/09 Hi there, great points Vuk!! - BigTDogg (MA) 13:11:46 11/30/09 I second VTB. - ZHOUND 13:27:35 11/30/09 LOL! - collegeboy 13:17:49 11/30/09 I'm with you man. It's probably close enough. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 13:42:08 11/30/09 Belt deflection is 90* to the misalignment that your xeroxed - boileralum 13:45:43 11/30/09 All i gotta say is...Nissan engineers made it 20mm and not - nonstopna 14:16:37 11/30/09 More like... - PennStateZ (VA) 15:07:09 11/30/09 LMAO. Good one. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 07:41:41 12/02/09 just checked, I got my from Bernie - Adam (NoVA) 15:24:11 11/30/09 You'd be better off not replying to any of this... - PennStateZ (VA) 15:42:18 11/30/09 Sad that it's so predictable... - ZLover4Life 16:06:49 11/30/09 lol... (n/m) - TTZMatt 16:22:21 11/30/09 Who cares if it is flawed as long as you make money right? (n/m) - Aqualung 16:31:24 11/30/09 Do you really believe the crap that you type? - bstyleZ 17:30:59 11/30/09 BTW, as if you weren't proving how stupid you are - BigTDogg (MA) 21:40:07 11/30/09 Let's just troll his BRAND NEW TOLL FREE phone number! - Aqualung 22:13:37 11/30/09 LOL, wish I could, I'm bizzand (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 22:34:29 11/30/09 It's Toll Free across North America. So I Propose... - Aqualung 15:48:33 12/01/09 Link? (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:02:02 11/30/09 Found it! High comedy... - SeedyROM 23:19:37 11/30/09 WTF...I don't get it - aliaZ 00:13:19 12/01/09 Exactly - SeedyROM 00:42:42 12/01/09 what was the name of their kit? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:36:12 12/01/09 Obviously they lack common sense and logic over at - Spongerider :) 11:03:41 12/01/09 Are the people over there - ZXRider(SoCal) 03:06:27 12/01/09 Either that or they're living in denial - BigTDogg (MA) 07:36:48 12/01/09 i'm at a loss for words - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:52:59 12/01/09 seriously - ali300zx 10:44:36 12/01/09 One dude asked about technical information - ZXRider(SoCal) 10:53:56 12/01/09 there teen ricers who most - Alan(MD/NJ) 10:04:27 12/01/09 They're not all teen ricers - BigTDogg (MA) 10:42:44 12/01/09 allow me to introduce you to the typical American youth (n/m) - LJZTT 00:14:03 12/02/09 LOL @ this: - PennStateZ (VA) 11:01:59 12/01/09 He was responding to my statement - Aqualung 15:32:27 12/01/09 you added spacers to make AMS look bad :-) - h0nzrr 16:30:15 12/01/09 You had me for a second :~) (n/m) - Aqualung 17:31:35 12/01/09 I am good huh? :-) (n/m) - ArubaDave 18:28:03 12/01/09 Oops... I just VTD'd Dave's post before I realized :) (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 17:30:02 12/01/09 :-( (n/m) - ArubaDave 19:25:02 12/01/09 retards on parade (n/m) - Spee 23:46:32 12/01/09 Isn't that a Rage Against The Machine song? - BigTDogg (MA) 06:53:07 12/02/09 bulls on parade actually - 96300NAZ 08:29:03 12/02/09 And you know this, MAN!! - BigTDogg (MA) 09:54:07 12/02/09 silly Dogg! (n/m) - Spee 19:04:30 12/02/09 Its a shame really - 96300NAZ 08:59:56 12/02/09 Good points - BigTDogg (MA) 09:53:02 12/02/09 I understand what you're saying - 96300NAZ 10:47:58 12/02/09 I'm glad you're not an engineer. (n/m) - Spee 23:28:16 12/01/09 Wow....just wow. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 07:30:33 12/02/09 Bookmarked. Thanks Bernie. (n/m) - AbsolutZ 13:50:12 11/30/09 Wheres the ams bandwagon group in this thread? - zxtuner161 14:50:23 11/30/09 Honzrr got himself banned and jschrauwen is avoiding the - Bernie (NoVA) 15:10:52 11/30/09 Amen, finally (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:56:19 11/30/09 Wow, takes quite a bit to get banned here - SeedyROM 16:04:51 11/30/09 Jeff Buckley is playing Hallelujah on his Tele in heaven. (n/m) - Aqualung 16:21:43 11/30/09 Honzrr was logged in a few minutes ago... (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 19:16:58 11/30/09 Yup and the little kid got a nice surprise, LoL!! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 19:34:02 11/30/09 it will take him a while to figure out why nobody responds - aliaZ 19:37:27 11/30/09 lol... awesome. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 19:56:34 11/30/09 Just ignore him, he'll go away. (n/m) - SactoTodd 21:28:19 11/30/09 banned? Wow it takes a lot to get banned here too LOL (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 20:09:29 11/30/09 Honzrr - michaelsevilla 16:43:07 11/30/09 Thanks for sharing it. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:13:31 11/30/09 Guess it's getting hard to find a good copy, to copy. (n/m) - bstyleZ 17:44:52 11/30/09 it costs more to buy a good product to copy - ZLover4Life 18:33:46 11/30/09 Why do you think they pay jschrauwen? (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 18:47:26 11/30/09 No pay or business arrangement here, sorry. (n/m) - jschrauwen 19:58:54 11/30/09 Then get rid of that godawful sticker. - PennStateZ (VA) 20:16:40 11/30/09 Been gone for months Matt (n/m) - jschrauwen 20:45:19 11/30/09 That's wonderful John. - PennStateZ (VA) 20:55:13 11/30/09 Do you really think he will ever say one bad word about Vuk? (n/m) - Aqualung 22:11:12 11/30/09 Since you asked.... - jschrauwen 23:08:20 11/30/09 I appreciate you & Honzrr for calling me a liar a week ago. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 23:27:03 11/30/09 ??? I make it a point not to choose words like that Bernie - jschrauwen 23:51:15 11/30/09 Shrug. - Bernie (NoVA) 00:12:50 12/01/09 and... corrected. (n/m) - zgene4 09:43:28 12/01/09 You can probably cut the bullshit any time now. - PennStateZ (VA) 16:59:44 12/01/09 It's called freedom of choice and speech. (n/m) - jschrauwen 01:00:52 12/02/09 Actually it's called bullshit. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VB) 08:19:26 12/02/09 ??? I make it a point not to choose words like that Bernie - jschrauwen 04:32:54 12/01/09 So I guess AMS's margin of error is +/- 10% (n/m) - DavezTT 17:45:39 11/30/09 Nice work Bernie! - DVDBURN (MD) 20:09:29 11/30/09 To be honest I have no interest in it. I use UR or ASP on - Bernie (NoVA) 22:58:29 11/30/09 bookmarked... Thanks Bernie! (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 20:10:06 11/30/09 Do you people know there's a war going on, and the economy - zellamay 22:57:29 11/30/09 Global warming isn't real (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:41:24 12/01/09 The planet has actually gone down 1* in the last decade (n/m) - alpha_omega16 11:42:42 12/01/09 Do you guys read at all? Even those who tried to deny it - zellamay 09:30:17 12/02/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's reques - michaelsevilla 03:12:52 12/01/09 And.... Victory - BigTDogg (MA) 12:56:19 12/01/09 it's a disgrace - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:27:38 12/01/09 You'd think that would be the standard reaction. - PennStateZ (VA) 14:55:58 12/01/09 :-) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:53:59 12/01/09 Does someone with an actual post count want to handle this? - PennStateZ (VA) 18:33:24 12/01/09 This guy is a good samaritan. - PennStateZ (VA) 18:38:28 12/01/09 I was one of the people banned - pencerules 19:19:10 12/01/09 Sad and predictable. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:44:57 12/01/09 Thread seems to have taken a turn. - PennStateZ (VB) 22:13:12 12/01/09 nail to the coffin - 96300NAZ 14:05:37 12/02/09 you added spacers to make AMS look bad :-) - h0nzrr 16:33:33 12/01/09 lol, hi Dave! (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:55:35 12/01/09 LOL,I miss Sarcasm police (n/m) - ArubaDave 19:00:45 12/01/09
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